@CyberMarci

Still have to get rid of one, I wouldn’t recommend Basel as a place to live at the moment, we’re now using smart meters because we even register when you go to the toilet at 3 a.m.:smileyvery-happy:

But in the future it will be used throughout Switzerland. OT Off

But as I said, if you have sensitive data, you no longer have to encrypt it until you can, unfortunately that’s how it is these days.

Tschamic

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@CyberMarci wrote:

And as I said, what about pictures that I view on the TV… or other device information in my network… does Swisscom guarantee me that this data is not sent indirectly to Google through the Android…?

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You don’t need to use ALL the functions of TV-Box. God knows there are plenty of alternatives for watching pictures on TV.

If SC and Google evaluate my television behavior and preferences and, at best, adapt the program accordingly, what can I have against it? Should I be afraid that one day I won’t get a job because I like watching nature documentaries? No! I just want more of it.

I assume that Google doesn’t notice what’s going on on Swisscom TV.

1. The OS has been heavily modified (streaming, etc. isn’t really good on stock Android). I don’t know what else can go directly to Google, but I don’t assume that the “dangerous” modules for TV are even needed. were implemented.

2. Swisscom is certainly aware of its responsibility. Due to the amount of very sensitive data she has, she is certainly under special scrutiny from data protection and from the main shareholder

3. And even IF it were like that: Google would certainly have hardly any way to trace you back, so it would only have anonymous data at most. The entire authentication procedure is from Swisscom and not from Google. You don’t have to log in anywhere with your gmail account, etc.

4. When it comes to apps, I can imagine that they are not so secure. but you have the choice whether you want to, for example. Whether you want to use YouTube logged in or not.

Then why don’t you stay on the old Windows box??? Reminds me a bit of the people who demonize WiFi and fall asleep with their cell phone under their pillow

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@CyberMarci wrote:

@ tschamic & Forevermore…

Do you always act so casual and say things? I don’t think that does your “expert” flag justice, does it?

firstly, this flag was given to me without my knowledge or ability and secondly, your query is not one of the usual questions. It is a help forum for problems that can be supported and not for basic questions.

And yes, I’m sticking with the old box… but not for the reason I asked for - question. I would switch immediately… despite the first criticism, but I still have recordings that I don’t want to miss… and still have to transfer them…

The recordings from February 1, 2014 will be transferred, all before will be deleted or will remain on the old box. I once heard that archived items are also transferred, but there is no guarantee. Maybe they’ll get a new timestamp after archiving - you can try it

Regarding WiFi and cell phones… it has something to do with radiation exposure. I don’t think my question about data security - Privacy Data… is comparable…

it was more about the fact that many people are worried (whether it’s WiFi or privacy data) who have completely different things at home (Facebook, Whatsup, Google) and are now suddenly worried about Swisscom. Since you don’t have to register anywhere, the data cannot be evaluated personally; at most, your television behavior is somehow registered so that suggestions can be made.

Well, the forum is the wrong way… I will activate my old contacts to Swisscom… to find out how the new environment regarding system management… and data privacy… is managed…

Good luck, maybe you’ll even have me on the phone and no one will be able to tell you anymore. We knew that SC-TV was coming two weeks in advance, so no one would tell us what was agreed between Android and Swisscom. We knew even less that Android was coming as an operating system. All I know is that data protection and privacy are very important at Swisscom and that no data is allowed to go out in any way, for whatever and also in one’s own interest. It might have been possible on the old box, as it had Windows on it and Microsoft is also a data collector

Have fun with the other sayings…

Have fun with the bad mood -. We do this here to help people who are more flippant and more sober and I’m happy to help, but your question wasn’t a support case, but a question of principle that I just don’t see that narrowly (and I’m not the only one ). It doesn’t really matter to me that anyone could tell what my viewing habits are. On the contrary, television geared towards me would be a dream

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@oldiesbutgoldies wrote:

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I once heard that archived items are also transferred, but this is without guarantee. Maybe they’ll get a new timestamp after archiving - you can try it

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This is one of the typical “Zigi balcony support legends” 🙂
How is that supposed to work? The cloud was released on February 1st. switched on and from then on everything is saved. Everything that was before is exclusively on the HD and does not find its way into the SC data center.

I said yes without guarantee

That would be my salvation 🙂

Swisscom on the cigarette-smoking duck balcony, can’t you program something that would work after your well-deserved break?

but V Micro is right - it would be illogical, the SC’s statement was that recordings have been taking place in parallel since February 1st, 2014, so that nothing is lost from that date - so no salvation after all - but you always had to take that into account. As soon as the box is defective, you would have lost the things anyway. So switch to the cloud and this can never happen to you again.

And what will it look like with HBBTV? There, the broadcasters can track almost anything they want, and quite a few have Google do it for them…

@micro: Your point 3 is very naive. TV runs over the same IP address as the rest of your LAN So log in to Google, YouTube… on your PC or connect an Android device to the WiFi and you’re already known.

At Swisscom, the IP stays the same for weeks… that makes it even easier.

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NotNormal

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NotNormal wrote:

@micro: Your point 3 is very naive. TV runs over the same IP address as the rest of your LAN So log in to Google, YouTube… on your PC or connect an Android device to the WiFi and you’re already known.

At Swisscom the IP stays the same for weeks… that makes it even easier.

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But the IP would also have to be known for this. And since the whole thing doesn’t run via browser etc, it is not guaranteed that an IP would also be transmitted.

But based on Swisscom’s message above, I don’t think point 3 is relevant in any way. This would definitely have been noticed during the security audit.

If you don’t want to be guarded, be it by the cell phone provider, Swisscom, Facebook, loyalty cards, credit cards… there is only one solution: build a tree hut and live like you did before the First World War.

Everything else is illusory… what use is the most secure box if the operator (Swisscom) itself analyzes viewing habits in order to generate favorites?

And: every device, no matter how secure it is, that is connected to the internet has a security hole somewhere… but I very much doubt whether a TV-Bexli will be the target of a professional spy.