I’m not really happy with the choice of operating system for the new TV box. Why Android? To feed Google even more information? What does Swisscom do to ensure that I don’t have the NSA or Google in my living room? (I’m exaggerating a bit…)
I definitely don’t want Google to analyze my television behavior… I work in IT and therefore know the options only too well…
I’m seriously considering switching to a different solution… What is Swisscom doing to ensure my privacy?
@CyberMarci wrote:
I’m not really happy with the choice of operating system for the new TV box. Why Android? To feed Google even more information? What does Swisscom do to ensure that I don’t have the NSA or Google in my living room? (I’m exaggerating a bit…)
I definitely don’t want Google to analyze my television behavior… I work in IT and therefore know the options only too well…
I’m seriously considering switching to a different solution… What does Swisscom do to ensure my privacy?
I think if you have nothing to hide, you can’t be so tragic:smileywink:
Hello first… 😉
So I’m a bit surprised that everyone seems to just blindly see the cool features. 1. There are enough examples of how this collected data can be misused and to the detriment… even for people who have nothing to hide… 2ndly, the device is in my network… and therefore further information can be collected here … And so it’s not just what I watch on TV… that’s why I want to know from Swisscom how they deal with this issue…
What really amazes me is the blind trust of the users… it seems to me that, blinded by the great features, they don’t ask themselves critical questions… and it doesn’t matter which OS. Google makes money with data… and sells it to various companies… most of them are reputable, I hope… But what if not… And as I said, what about pictures-photos that I look at on TV… . or other device information in my network… does Swisscom guarantee me that this data will not go indirectly to Google through the Android…?
Well, I think that should interest everyone… I’m definitely interested in what happens to my data… even if it’s harmless… the intended use is then suddenly no longer harmless… But apparently many people got news from Snowden Nothing learned… it’s a shame… but as I said, I want a statement from Swisscom.
Whether Android or Microsoft: both American sources.
Do you have the feeling that things look muchllllllll better with a Linux kernel xyz?
I am sure that Swisscom has exploited this to the maximum in order to not allow any backdors as much as possible.
But let’s be realistic: today components, frameworks, SDKs are often used. And no one, no one, can have absolute insight into this.
just my 2 cents
Yes… yes, it’s true, you can never know for sure… it starts with the chips… etc. Well… I’m an expert. I just want to hear from Swisscom what data flows here… Android isn’t really “free”… And I want to know what Swisscom’s position on the topic is… Because
For me it makes a difference whether someone uses the OS “abusively” - backdoors… (And as I said, I agree with you) Or whether a company like Google collects the data and resells it…
@CyberMarci wrote:
Yes… yes, it’s true, you can never know for sure… it starts with the chips… etc. Well… I’m an expert. I just want to hear from Swisscom what data flows here… Android isn’t really “free”… And I want to know what Swisscom’s position on the topic is… Because
For me it makes a difference whether someone uses the OS “abusively” - backdoors… (And as I said, I agree with you) Or whether a company like Google collects the data and resells it…
I don’t think you will receive this information from Swisscom 😉 (PS. I’m also an expert: smileywink: )
@CyberMarci wrote:
Yes… yes, it’s true, you can never know for sure… it starts with the chips… etc. Well… I’m an expert. I just want to hear from Swisscom what data flows here… Android isn’t really “free”… And I want to know what Swisscom’s position on the topic is… Because
For me it makes a difference whether someone uses the OS “abusively” - backdoors… (And as I said, I agree with you) Or whether a company like Google collects the data and resells it…
Then you’re in the wrong place in a customer help customer forum… We can’t tell you.
But I also suspect that Swisscom will not give you any detailed information about this. There wasn’t anything about the media room part either. How the data is handled is set out in the terms and conditions.
🙂 if I don’t get an answer at all… it’s very worrying… I thought for a long time whether I should even make a blog entry… But since I worked in a very large American IT company… I thought I’ll give it a try… because if no one defends themselves or asks critical questions… nothing will change… But I’m totally with you… exciting process 😉
@CyberMarci wrote:
🙂 if I don’t get an answer at all… it’s very worrying… I thought for a long time whether I should even make a blog entry… But since I worked in a very large American IT company myself… I thought to myself, let’s give it a try… because if no one defends themselves or asks critical questions… nothing will change… But I’m totally with you… exciting process 😉
No answer and no information are not the same thing.
But make it easy for yourself, read the terms and conditions for tv2.0 and everything that is legally important should be there.
@ CyberMarci What does data protection mean in general? Or to what extent can data be used to provide certain features? I am of the opinion that as long as data is collected to ensure quality and to recognize general user behavior, it makes sense. For me, however, it goes too far if a personal user profile can be created based on the collected data, which can then be sold on to Potenzell interested companies and service providers, who then advertise their products extensively in order to generate even more sales. I think this needs to be maintained and everyone should be allowed to decide for themselves how further they can control their consumption behavior. On the other hand, I also find it pleasant to get recommendations on a streaming platform that correspond to my general taste. However, the option should of course remain that I can still consume completely new offers. I think social TV applications will also be possible next at Swisscom TV 2.0, I think these are quite nice. I think content television still has its place, but I also hope that streaming offers such as. B. Netflix, Amazone Prime can also use a Swiss offer via TV 2.0.
@Pumpido wrote:
Ha ha, cool. Internet subscription from Swisscom but worry if the TV behavior could be recorded or tracked by the same provider;o)
No, it is clear that Swisscom knows what you are watching, who you are talking to, where you are and which website you are surfing.
This thread is about whether Google can find out about this or not.
As Warren said, there is already an answer to this via Swisscom’s terms and conditions and data protection declaration. In my opinion, whether that is enough or whether additional information should flow from Swisscom can and should be discussed.
