@CyberMarci wrote:
Yes… yes, it’s true, you can never know for sure… it starts with the chips… etc. Well… I’m an expert. I just want to hear from Swisscom what data flows here… Android isn’t really “free”… And I want to know what Swisscom’s position on the topic is… Because
For me it makes a difference whether someone uses the OS “abusively” - backdoors… (And as I said, I agree with you) Or whether a company like Google collects the data and resells it…
Then you’re in the wrong place in a customer help customer forum… We can’t tell you.
But I also suspect that Swisscom will not give you any detailed information about this. There wasn’t anything about the media room part either. How the data is handled is set out in the terms and conditions.
🙂 if I don’t get an answer at all… it’s very worrying… I thought for a long time whether I should even make a blog entry… But since I worked in a very large American IT company… I thought I’ll give it a try… because if no one defends themselves or asks critical questions… nothing will change… But I’m totally with you… exciting process 😉
@CyberMarci wrote:
🙂 if I don’t get an answer at all… it’s very worrying… I thought for a long time whether I should even make a blog entry… But since I worked in a very large American IT company myself… I thought to myself, let’s give it a try… because if no one defends themselves or asks critical questions… nothing will change… But I’m totally with you… exciting process 😉
No answer and no information are not the same thing.
But make it easy for yourself, read the terms and conditions for tv2.0 and everything that is legally important should be there.
@ CyberMarci What does data protection mean in general? Or to what extent can data be used to provide certain features? I am of the opinion that as long as data is collected to ensure quality and to recognize general user behavior, it makes sense. For me, however, it goes too far if a personal user profile can be created based on the collected data, which can then be sold on to Potenzell interested companies and service providers, who then advertise their products extensively in order to generate even more sales. I think this needs to be maintained and everyone should be allowed to decide for themselves how further they can control their consumption behavior. On the other hand, I also find it pleasant to get recommendations on a streaming platform that correspond to my general taste. However, the option should of course remain that I can still consume completely new offers. I think social TV applications will also be possible next at Swisscom TV 2.0, I think these are quite nice. I think content television still has its place, but I also hope that streaming offers such as. B. Netflix, Amazone Prime can also use a Swiss offer via TV 2.0.
@Pumpido wrote:
Ha ha, cool. Internet subscription from Swisscom but worry if the TV behavior could be recorded or tracked by the same provider;o)
No, it is clear that Swisscom knows what you are watching, who you are talking to, where you are and which website you are surfing.
This thread is about whether Google can find out about this or not.
As Warren said, there is already an answer to this via Swisscom’s terms and conditions and data protection declaration. In my opinion, whether that is enough or whether additional information should flow from Swisscom can and should be discussed.
Still have to get rid of one, I wouldn’t recommend Basel as a place to live at the moment, we’re now using smart meters because we even register when you go to the toilet at 3 a.m.:smileyvery-happy:
But in the future it will be used throughout Switzerland. OT Off
But as I said, if you have sensitive data, you no longer have to encrypt it until you can, unfortunately that’s how it is these days.
Tschamic
@CyberMarci wrote:
And as I said, what about pictures that I view on the TV… or other device information in my network… does Swisscom guarantee me that this data is not sent indirectly to Google through the Android…?
You don’t need to use ALL the functions of TV-Box. God knows there are plenty of alternatives for watching pictures on TV.
If SC and Google evaluate my television behavior and preferences and, at best, adapt the program accordingly, what can I have against it? Should I be afraid that one day I won’t get a job because I like watching nature documentaries? No! I just want more of it.
I assume that Google doesn’t notice what’s going on on Swisscom TV.
1. The OS has been heavily modified (streaming, etc. isn’t really good on stock Android). I don’t know what else can go directly to Google, but I don’t assume that the “dangerous” modules for TV are even needed. were implemented.
2. Swisscom is certainly aware of its responsibility. Due to the amount of very sensitive data she has, she is certainly under special scrutiny from data protection and from the main shareholder
3. And even IF it were like that: Google would certainly have hardly any way to trace you back, so it would only have anonymous data at most. The entire authentication procedure is from Swisscom and not from Google. You don’t have to log in anywhere with your gmail account, etc.
4. When it comes to apps, I can imagine that they are not so secure. but you have the choice whether you want to, for example. Whether you want to use YouTube logged in or not.
@tschamic & Forevermore…
Do you always act so casual and say things? I don’t think that does your “expert” flag justice, does it?
And yes, I’m sticking with the old box… but not for the reason I asked for - question. I would switch immediately… despite the first criticism, but I still have recordings that I don’t want to miss… and still have to transfer them…
Regarding WiFi and cell phones… it has something to do with radiation exposure. I don’t think my question about data security - Privacy Data… is comparable…
Well, the forum is the wrong way… I will activate my old contacts to Swisscom… to find out how the new environment regarding system management… and data privacy… is managed…
Have fun with the other sayings…
@CyberMarci wrote:
@ tschamic & Forevermore…
Do you always act so casual and say things? I don’t think that does your “expert” flag justice, does it?
firstly, this flag was given to me without my knowledge or ability and secondly, your query is not one of the usual questions. It is a help forum for problems that can be supported and not for basic questions.
And yes, I’m sticking with the old box… but not for the reason I asked for - question. I would switch immediately… despite the first criticism, but I still have recordings that I don’t want to miss… and still have to transfer them…
The recordings from February 1, 2014 will be transferred, all before will be deleted or will remain on the old box. I once heard that archived items are also transferred, but there is no guarantee. Maybe they’ll get a new timestamp after archiving - you can try it
Regarding WiFi and cell phones… it has something to do with radiation exposure. I don’t think my question about data security - Privacy Data… is comparable…
it was more about the fact that many people are worried (whether it’s WiFi or privacy data) who have completely different things at home (Facebook, Whatsup, Google) and are now suddenly worried about Swisscom. Since you don’t have to register anywhere, the data cannot be evaluated personally; at most, your television behavior is somehow registered so that suggestions can be made.
Well, the forum is the wrong way… I will activate my old contacts to Swisscom… to find out how the new environment regarding system management… and data privacy… is managed…
Good luck, maybe you’ll even have me on the phone and no one will be able to tell you anymore. We knew that SC-TV was coming two weeks in advance, so no one would tell us what was agreed between Android and Swisscom. We knew even less that Android was coming as an operating system. All I know is that data protection and privacy are very important at Swisscom and that no data is allowed to go out in any way, for whatever and also in one’s own interest. It might have been possible on the old box, as it had Windows on it and Microsoft is also a data collector
Have fun with the other sayings…
Have fun with the bad mood -. We do this here to help people who are more flippant and more sober and I’m happy to help, but your question wasn’t a support case, but a question of principle that I just don’t see that narrowly (and I’m not the only one ). It doesn’t really matter to me that anyone could tell what my viewing habits are. On the contrary, television geared towards me would be a dream
@oldiesbutgoldies wrote:
I once heard that archived items are also transferred, but this is without guarantee. Maybe they’ll get a new timestamp after archiving - you can try it
This is one of the typical “Zigi balcony support legends” 🙂
How is that supposed to work? The cloud was released on February 1st. switched on and from then on everything is saved. Everything that was before is exclusively on the HD and does not find its way into the SC data center.
but V Micro is right - it would be illogical, the SC’s statement was that recordings have been taking place in parallel since February 1st, 2014, so that nothing is lost from that date - so no salvation after all - but you always had to take that into account. As soon as the box is defective, you would have lost the things anyway. So switch to the cloud and this can never happen to you again.