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@CyberMarci wrote:

I’m not really happy with the choice of operating system for the new TV box. Why Android? To feed Google even more information? What does Swisscom do to ensure that I don’t have the NSA or Google in my living room? (I’m exaggerating a bit…)

I definitely don’t want Google to analyze my television behavior… I work in IT and therefore know the options only too well…

I’m seriously considering switching to a different solution… What does Swisscom do to ensure my privacy?

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I think if you have nothing to hide, you can’t be so tragic:smileywink:

I can understand you, but then you have to say goodbye to the internet immediately.

I don’t know what brand of TV you have, but they already report data back.

Even with the browsers, you have no idea what they are doing to you.

Whether Android or Microsoft: both American sources.

Do you have the feeling that things look muchllllllll better with a Linux kernel xyz?

I am sure that Swisscom has exploited this to the maximum in order to not allow any backdors as much as possible.

But let’s be realistic: today components, frameworks, SDKs are often used. And no one, no one, can have absolute insight into this.

just my 2 cents

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@CyberMarci wrote:

Yes… yes, it’s true, you can never know for sure… it starts with the chips… etc. Well… I’m an expert. I just want to hear from Swisscom what data flows here… Android isn’t really “free”… And I want to know what Swisscom’s position on the topic is… Because
For me it makes a difference whether someone uses the OS “abusively” - backdoors… (And as I said, I agree with you) Or whether a company like Google collects the data and resells it…

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I don’t think you will receive this information from Swisscom 😉 (PS. I’m also an expert: smileywink: )

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@CyberMarci wrote:

Yes… yes, it’s true, you can never know for sure… it starts with the chips… etc. Well… I’m an expert. I just want to hear from Swisscom what data flows here… Android isn’t really “free”… And I want to know what Swisscom’s position on the topic is… Because
For me it makes a difference whether someone uses the OS “abusively” - backdoors… (And as I said, I agree with you) Or whether a company like Google collects the data and resells it…

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Then you’re in the wrong place in a customer help customer forum… We can’t tell you.

But I also suspect that Swisscom will not give you any detailed information about this. There wasn’t anything about the media room part either. How the data is handled is set out in the terms and conditions.

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@CyberMarci wrote:

Hello,

yes, that’s true… but as I said, I don’t want to “save the world”

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Tim Bendzko already does this:smileyvery-happy:

So, now finished OT 😉

@ CyberMarci What does data protection mean in general? Or to what extent can data be used to provide certain features? I am of the opinion that as long as data is collected to ensure quality and to recognize general user behavior, it makes sense. For me, however, it goes too far if a personal user profile can be created based on the collected data, which can then be sold on to Potenzell interested companies and service providers, who then advertise their products extensively in order to generate even more sales. I think this needs to be maintained and everyone should be allowed to decide for themselves how further they can control their consumption behavior. On the other hand, I also find it pleasant to get recommendations on a streaming platform that correspond to my general taste. However, the option should of course remain that I can still consume completely new offers. I think social TV applications will also be possible next at Swisscom TV 2.0, I think these are quite nice. I think content television still has its place, but I also hope that streaming offers such as. B. Netflix, Amazone Prime can also use a Swiss offer via TV 2.0.

Ha ha, cool. Internet subscription from Swisscom but worry if the TV behavior could be recorded or tracked by the same provider;o)

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@Pumpido wrote:

Ha ha, cool. Internet subscription from Swisscom but worry if the TV behavior could be recorded or tracked by the same provider;o)

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No, it is clear that Swisscom knows what you are watching, who you are talking to, where you are and which website you are surfing.

This thread is about whether Google can find out about this or not.

As Warren said, there is already an answer to this via Swisscom’s terms and conditions and data protection declaration. In my opinion, whether that is enough or whether additional information should flow from Swisscom can and should be discussed.

@CyberMarci

Still have to get rid of one, I wouldn’t recommend Basel as a place to live at the moment, we’re now using smart meters because we even register when you go to the toilet at 3 a.m.:smileyvery-happy:

But in the future it will be used throughout Switzerland. OT Off

But as I said, if you have sensitive data, you no longer have to encrypt it until you can, unfortunately that’s how it is these days.

Tschamic

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@CyberMarci wrote:

And as I said, what about pictures that I view on the TV… or other device information in my network… does Swisscom guarantee me that this data is not sent indirectly to Google through the Android…?

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You don’t need to use ALL the functions of TV-Box. God knows there are plenty of alternatives for watching pictures on TV.

If SC and Google evaluate my television behavior and preferences and, at best, adapt the program accordingly, what can I have against it? Should I be afraid that one day I won’t get a job because I like watching nature documentaries? No! I just want more of it.

I assume that Google doesn’t notice what’s going on on Swisscom TV.

1. The OS has been heavily modified (streaming, etc. isn’t really good on stock Android). I don’t know what else can go directly to Google, but I don’t assume that the “dangerous” modules for TV are even needed. were implemented.

2. Swisscom is certainly aware of its responsibility. Due to the amount of very sensitive data she has, she is certainly under special scrutiny from data protection and from the main shareholder

3. And even IF it were like that: Google would certainly have hardly any way to trace you back, so it would only have anonymous data at most. The entire authentication procedure is from Swisscom and not from Google. You don’t have to log in anywhere with your gmail account, etc.

4. When it comes to apps, I can imagine that they are not so secure. but you have the choice whether you want to, for example. Whether you want to use YouTube logged in or not.

Then why don’t you stay on the old Windows box??? Reminds me a bit of the people who demonize WiFi and fall asleep with their cell phone under their pillow