Very low download speed with 4G and 5G

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@Vifreuthau72 wrote:

….Can someone try to explain to me why this is the case? I actually already thought to myself: buy a 5G router and never have any more problems with the internet in the holiday apartment. But that doesn’t seem to be the case.

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You can thank the opponents of 5G expansion.

Most current 5G antennas are 5G wide antennas, a kind of pimped-up 4G that does not require a building permit and often provides worse bandwidth than 4G.

The real 5G+ with all its advantages is just being hindered…

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@Vifreuthau72 wrote:
Can someone try to explain to me why this is the case?

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The answer has already been given:

…to do with the load on the antenna or the network, since everyone is surfing and watching TV via a 4G router…

If the upload is significantly faster than the download and the packet turnaround times (RTT) are significantly > 30 milliseconds, the case is clear -> network overload!

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@Vifreuthau72 wrote:

I am now the owner of an iPhone 12 and thought to myself that it should be a lot faster now. Unfortunately, far from it.

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Unfortunately, you are rarely alone in Switzerland. And many other Swiss people with purchasing power also had the latest super-duper iPhone under the Christmas tree for Christmas…

And when you study the Bakom radio transmitter map, you will easily see that the green dots (mobile radio antennas with 5G radiation) are extremely rare in the “Bettmeralp” region. The reason for this has already been provided by POGO 1104.

https://map.geo.admin.ch/?topic=funksender

Please see the information below:

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-funktioniert-nicht-proper-15x-langsamer-als-4G/m-p/620471#M7574] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/5G-funktioniert-nicht-proper-15x-langsamer-als-4G/m-p/620471#M7574)

before you place false expectations on current 5G reception.

@Vifreuthau72 I also read in the Apple software beta program that ‘real 5G’ (now not dependent on the expansion structure) should only be activated with an upcoming update!

@DomiP

But as far as I know only for the US devices.

@hed I assume so, but I meant that European devices are not fully activated yet. These would probably come a little later.

But yeah, in Switzerland that probably doesn’t do much anyway.

It would be better to travel with a brick or something 🙄

I read somewhere that the US devices have a different HW and the devices in Switzerland cannot support all 5G modes, even with a FW upgrade.

But with the iPhone 13 it will be possible 🙂

Let’s hope so. Also for the other devices, because what’s the point of having a 5G phone if you can’t fully benefit from it…

5G is simply not developed enough yet and the resistance in the population to expansion is very high and is slowing everything down.

@Vifreuthau72

The sale of cell phones is increasing and as a result the network is becoming more and more strained; many users are also using the mobile network instead of the landline network.

Hello everyone

CEO Sepp Schaeppi, when presenting last year’s figures, mentioned that data traffic in the mobile sector had increased by 30% since the lockdown.

And now everyone can do the math themselves.

Do a speed test tomorrow at 3 a.m. and see what kind of data you get. And very importantly, go in front of the house and in the direction where the antenna is. This way you have no obstacle between you and the antenna.

Depending on the building material of the house, more or less signal comes through. Be it single, double or even triple glazing.

Single masonry, double masonry etc…

Greetings Lorenz

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@hed wrote:

I read somewhere that the US devices have a different HW and the devices in Switzerland cannot support all 5G modes🙂

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The GSMArena.com website is happy to provide information about which model variant of the cell phone, which cell phone frequency bands and cell phone technologies are supported:

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_12-10509.php

-> Click/press “EXPAND” in the “NETWORK” line

The same information is available from Apple at:

https://www.apple.com/de/iphone-12/specs/

This information with the mobile phone frequency band information can be found at:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobilfunkfrequencies_in_der_Switzerland

[https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/2G-Abschaltung-2020-neue-weisse-Flecken-kein-Empfang/m-p/618372#M7449] (https://community.swisscom.ch/t5/Mobile/2G-Abschaltung-2020-neue-weisse-Flecken-kein-Empfang/m-p/618372#M7449)

compare.

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@Vifreuthau72 wrote:

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Ultimately, there would be fewer 4G devices under these circumstances and so the network should at least be less loaded there 🙂

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Every year the amount of data that customers use via the Swisscom mobile network doubles.

Source: [https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2015/10/20151008-MM-Swisscom-ruestet-ihr-Mobilfunknetz-fuer-die-Zukunft.html] (https://www.swisscom.ch/de/about/news/2015/10/20151008-MM-Swisscom-ruestet-ihr-Mobilfunknetz-fuer-die-Zukunft.html)

And here are some nice daily curves:

https://www.swisscom.ch/content/dam/swisscom/de/about/medien/faktencheck/documents/20140212_Data VolumeMobile Network.pdf.res/20140212_Data VolumeMobile Network.pdf

The peak load in the Swisscom mobile network is usually reached after 7:00 p.m….

@Vifreuthau72

The population’s “hunger for data” is increasing faster than the expansion of networks. The objections against 5G are partly responsible for the situation.

In individual cases, it is also very possible that there is a problem with the transmission system at your receiving location. Therefore the following questions:

- Have you ever tested with another device in the same location?

- What is the speed like at 3:00 a.m. when you stand within sight of the transmitter (note: performance can be poor directly under the transmission tower)

If you have poor speed values ​​with various devices even at 3:00 a.m. when there is good visibility of the transmitter, you must open a fault ticket (0800 800 800).

sorry, a bit off topic

I can clearly remember how people claimed that 5G would mean the “death” of fiber optic networks because it would be sooo much faster 😁

@Anonymous

Well, the expansion doesn’t stop there. In 5 - 10 years the situation will look different than today, when 5G+, which is very fast, is only available selectively. You can already see it with the 4G network. Today, a speed of around 100 Mbit is actually almost standard, which would have been unthinkable a few years ago, especially over the mobile network.

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@Samsi wrote:

@Anonymous

Well, the expansion doesn’t stop there anyway. In 5 - 10 years the situation will look different than today, when 5G+, which is very fast, is only available selectively. You can already see it with the 4G network. Today, a speed of around 100 Mbit is actually almost standard, which would have been unthinkable a few years ago, especially over the mobile network.

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I don’t know how you handle it (DeLorean?), but I live in the here and now. With fiber optic I have 1Gbit/s symmetrically and that without any ifs or buts.

Of course progress continues! (back then my first hard drive was 40 MB (megabytes) in size and I thought, “I’ll never fill it up” (but I was still young and naive; that’s completely different today: now I’m just naive)