Swisscom tv box on 2 floors

PPipo1258 · Jan 3, 2020

Swisscom tv box on 2 floors

Hello everyone,

I have a question. A friend of mine has a swisscom box connected to the standard Internet box in his house on the second floor. Now he has a second box connected on the ground floor using a Lan cable via the stairwell. He wants to change that now, but he doesn’t have one Possibility of pulling the Lan cable up in the wall. Now I had the idea of using the WiFi connection kit. But they don’t exist anymore. I was advised on the Swisscom phone to get a WiFi box. But1. Does this even work to watch the TV box on the ground floor via WiFi, and if so, where do I set it up? Or what other options are there for watching TV on the ground floor without Lan cable? Can you help me with that? Many thanks, regards Peter

WalterB · Jan 3, 2020

@Pipo1258

With the WLAN-Box it works well if there is only a ceiling or wall between the Internet box and WLAN-Box.

Of course, the Internet box must be free-standing and not in a cupboard.

https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/produkte/netzwerkzubehoer/details.html/wlan-box-11024867?payOption=ONE_TIME&useCase=HARDWAREONLY&category=connection_accessories_RE S

PPipo1258 · Jan 3, 2020

Thanks for your answer, does that mean connecting the WiFi box on the ground floor to the Swisscom Box and then it should or could work?

POGO 1104 · Jan 3, 2020

I consider going from the 2nd floor to the ground floor to be very daring with WiFi….

Is the house/building owned by your friend?

How long is the LAN cable in the stairwell now?

PPipo1258 · Jan 3, 2020

Yes, the house belongs to my friend, but he doesn’t want to put a lot of effort into installing a LAN line in the house? Theoretically, could I set up a WiFi box on the ground floor and connect it to the TV box? To test whether it works, if not I can return the WiFi box. So he has full WiFi reception on the ground floor on the computer. Although the router Internetbox Standard is on the 2nd floor.

PPipo1258 · Jan 3, 2020

Sorry, the LAN cable runs about 20 meters through the stairwell

WalterB · Jan 3, 2020

@Pipo1258

You have to connect the TV-Box directly to the WLAN-Box via LAN and not place it as a repeater between the Internet box and TV-Box.

As I said, a ceiling or wall in between doesn’t work too badly.

Werner · Jan 3, 2020

@Pipo1258 wrote:

Yes, the house belongs to my friend, but he doesn’t want to put a lot of effort into installing a LAN line in the house? Theoretically, could I set up a WiFi box on the ground floor and connect it to the TV box? To test whether it works, if not I can return the WiFi box. So he has full WiFi reception on the ground floor on the computer. Although the router Internetbox Standard is on the 2nd floor.

So if the PC actually has full WiFi reception, the simplest solution is to try the direct WiFi connection TV-Box to the Internet Box.

It costs absolutely nothing and already gives you a hint, because if it’s just not enough, it could actually work with the additional WLAN-Box (whose WLAN adapter is a little better than the one built into the TV-Box itself).

Incidentally, customers usually massively overestimate the costs of subsequently installing a LAN cable.

In any case, the best solution would be to have an electrician make you an offer for running a LAN cable between the floors, because all types of existing pipes can be used (telephone, cable TV and also electricity). With a high degree of certainty, an additional cable must only be inserted in the most suitable way and provided with sockets or end pieces.

Usually takes less than 1 hour and the materials required are relatively cheap.

This solution then lasts for decades without any further follow-up costs…

hed · Jan 3, 2020

@Pipo1258 wrote:

Sorry, the LAN cable runs about 20 meters through the stairwell

And why does he want to change that now? The existing LAN cable is already technically the best solution.

PPipo1258 · Jan 4, 2020

Hello,

Because he has a laundry hanger in the stairwell and everything is flying because of it. I’ll try it with WiFi and possibly with a WiFi box. Thank you very much, regards Peter

kaetho · Jan 4, 2020

Pipo1258

Posting suitable small cable ducts in construction + hobby, installing them cleverly and then running the LAN cable through them is much cheaper and more effective.

This message would then also be a thing of the past 😉

Greetings, Thomas

PPipo1258 · Jan 4, 2020

Yes, but it’s not that easy, wall breakthrough through the ground floor door and 2 wall breakthroughs through 2 ceilings, i.e. floors, relatively large effort. And there are no existing cables to pull up.

user109 · Jan 4, 2020

kaetho meant:

https://www.bauundhobby.ch/maschinen-werkstatt/elektro-material/verlegware/kanaele/kabelkanal-mini-9×5-mm-weiss-sk-2-m/p/4002405?template=productpage1_new&box=box1

Kafixkanal

Kafix Canal

or use a clasp racket and 9mm or 12mm (height) clasps to carefully attach the Swisscom flat ribbon Ethernet cable and do not crush it with the clasp. The flat ribbon Ethernet cable fits exactly into the handle.

[https://www.mitechag.ch/online-shop/search/agraffen%20schl%C3%A4ger/14](https://www.mitechag.ch/online-shop/search/agraffen%20schl%C3% A4ger/14)

Agraffe:

E-No. 167180012
EAN number 7610508200708
Item number 58062
Supplier article number 129914
EM number D 8862

[https://dev.baumannelektro.ch/shop/product/167180012-krampe-sfs-nr-2-12mm-verzinkt-217874?category=2190] (https://dev.baumannelektro.ch/shop/product/167180012-krampe-sfs-nr-2-12mm-verzinkt-217874?category=2190)

[https://shop.w-f.ch/ishop/directSearchService.svc?allArticles=true&customerPicksOnly=false&q=Krampe+SFS+No.2+12mm+galvanized+&stock=false&stockConducted=false] (https://shop.w-f.ch/ishop/directSearchService.svc?allArticles=true&customerPicksOnly=false&q=Krampe+SFS+Nr.2+12mm+galvanized+&stock=false&stockConducted=false)

PPipo1258 · Jan 4, 2020

Thank you very much, but then the wall breakthrough problem has not yet been solved and then it would not only be 20 meters but about 30 meters

Werner · Jan 4, 2020

@Pipo1258 wrote:

Yes, but it’s not that easy, wall breakthrough through the ground floor door and 2 wall breakthroughs through 2 ceilings i.e. floors, relatively large effort. And there are no existing cables to pull up.

That probably can’t be true, because if you have electricity on both floors and the cables are not nailed directly to the wall with cable clamps, but are laid in pipes as has been the case for decades, then there is already a pipe connection between the floors in the house.

user109 · Jan 4, 2020

Pipo1258 the Swisscom flatband Ethernet cable is also available in a length of 25m

(https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/produkte/netzwerkzubehoer/details.html/ethernet-cable-25m-11016995?payOption=ONE_TIME&useCase=HARDWAREONLY&category=connection_accessories_RE S)

and can be laid in/over/through the door frame. If the length is not enough, you can also use the adapter:

[https://www.interdiscount.ch/de/computer-gaming/kabel/computer-kabel-adapter--c524000/secomp-roline-rj-45-kupplung-cat-6-geschi rmt–p0001404913?gclid=CjwKCAiAjMHwBRAVEiwAzdLWGH8kOACS0nxlfbAGwsppnM7DhpuEgGFNuVC6l925A8bNE6RJi8nIXRoCn0YQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds ](https://www.interdiscount.ch/de/computer-gaming/kabel/computer-kabel-adapter--c524000/secomp-roline-rj-45-kupplung-cat-6-gesch irmt–p0001404913?gclid=CjwKCAiAjMHwBRAVEiwAzdLWGH8kOACS0nxlfbAGwsppnM7DhpuEgGFNuVC6l925A8bNE6RJi8nIXRoCn0YQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

be extended.

PPipo1258 · Jan 4, 2020

Yes, that’s true, but then the cable comes out behind the kitchen where you have to sharpen the plates, and he doesn’t want that. I have to clarify with him what he wants to do.

hed · Jan 4, 2020

@Pipo1258

In summary:

If you want a permanently stable, high-performance, problem-free and error-free connection, install a Gigabit Ethernet connection. And if you can’t do it yourself or can’t find the existing pipes, have an electrician do it for you.

Lori-77 · Jan 4, 2020

Hello @Pipo1258

There is definitely an old telephone socket on the second floor. This usually goes to the house connection via the stairwell, where there are branch points.

And you also have a telephone socket from your current location.

I assume that the pipe behind it is big enough to pull in a nice, clean cable.

You can also use this pipe and then you don’t have to sharpen anything.

Greetings Lorenz

PPipo1258 · Jan 5, 2020

Good morning, I’ll take a look at this, thank you