@Pipo1258 wrote:

Yes, the house belongs to my friend, but he doesn’t want to put a lot of effort into installing a LAN line in the house? Theoretically, could I set up a WiFi box on the ground floor and connect it to the TV box? To test whether it works, if not I can return the WiFi box. So he has full WiFi reception on the ground floor on the computer. Although the router Internetbox Standard is on the 2nd floor.

So if the PC actually has full WiFi reception, the simplest solution is to try the direct WiFi connection TV-Box to the Internet Box.

It costs absolutely nothing and already gives you a hint, because if it’s just not enough, it could actually work with the additional WLAN-Box (whose WLAN adapter is a little better than the one built into the TV-Box itself).

Incidentally, customers usually massively overestimate the costs of subsequently installing a LAN cable.

In any case, the best solution would be to have an electrician make you an offer for running a LAN cable between the floors, because all types of existing pipes can be used (telephone, cable TV and also electricity). With a high degree of certainty, an additional cable must only be inserted in the most suitable way and provided with sockets or end pieces.

Usually takes less than 1 hour and the materials required are relatively cheap.

This solution then lasts for decades without any further follow-up costs…

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@Pipo1258 wrote:

Sorry, the LAN cable runs about 20 meters through the stairwell

And why does he want to change that now? The existing LAN cable is already technically the best solution.

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Hello,

Because he has a laundry hanger in the stairwell and everything is flying because of it. I’ll try it with WiFi and possibly with a WiFi box. Thank you very much, regards Peter

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  • kaetho has responded to this post.

    Pipo1258

    Posting suitable small cable ducts in construction + hobby, installing them cleverly and then running the LAN cable through them is much cheaper and more effective.

    This message would then also be a thing of the past 😉

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    Greetings, Thomas

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        Yes, but it’s not that easy, wall breakthrough through the ground floor door and 2 wall breakthroughs through 2 ceilings, i.e. floors, relatively large effort. And there are no existing cables to pull up.

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        kaetho meant:

        https://www.bauundhobby.ch/maschinen-werkstatt/elektro-material/verlegware/kanaele/kabelkanal-mini-9×5-mm-weiss-sk-2-m/p/4002405?template=productpage1_new&box=box1

        Kafixkanal

        Kafix Canal

        or use a clasp racket and 9mm or 12mm (height) clasps to carefully attach the Swisscom flat ribbon Ethernet cable and do not crush it with the clasp. The flat ribbon Ethernet cable fits exactly into the handle.

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        [https://www.mitechag.ch/online-shop/search/agraffen%20schl%C3%A4ger/14](https://www.mitechag.ch/online-shop/search/agraffen%20schl%C3% A4ger/14)

        Agraffe:

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        E-No. 167180012
        EAN number 7610508200708
        Item number 58062
        Supplier article number 129914
        EM number D 8862

        [https://dev.baumannelektro.ch/shop/product/167180012-krampe-sfs-nr-2-12mm-verzinkt-217874?category=2190] (https://dev.baumannelektro.ch/shop/product/167180012-krampe-sfs-nr-2-12mm-verzinkt-217874?category=2190)

        [https://shop.w-f.ch/ishop/directSearchService.svc?allArticles=true&customerPicksOnly=false&q=Krampe+SFS+No.2+12mm+galvanized+&stock=false&stockConducted=false] (https://shop.w-f.ch/ishop/directSearchService.svc?allArticles=true&customerPicksOnly=false&q=Krampe+SFS+Nr.2+12mm+galvanized+&stock=false&stockConducted=false)

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          Thank you very much, but then the wall breakthrough problem has not yet been solved and then it would not only be 20 meters but about 30 meters

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            @Pipo1258 wrote:

            Yes, but it’s not that easy, wall breakthrough through the ground floor door and 2 wall breakthroughs through 2 ceilings i.e. floors, relatively large effort. And there are no existing cables to pull up.

            That probably can’t be true, because if you have electricity on both floors and the cables are not nailed directly to the wall with cable clamps, but are laid in pipes as has been the case for decades, then there is already a pipe connection between the floors in the house.

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            Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

            Pipo1258 the Swisscom flatband Ethernet cable is also available in a length of 25m

            (https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/produkte/netzwerkzubehoer/details.html/ethernet-cable-25m-11016995?payOption=ONE_TIME&useCase=HARDWAREONLY&category=connection_accessories_RE S)

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            and can be laid in/over/through the door frame. If the length is not enough, you can also use the adapter:

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            [https://www.interdiscount.ch/de/computer-gaming/kabel/computer-kabel-adapter--c524000/secomp-roline-rj-45-kupplung-cat-6-geschi rmt–p0001404913?gclid=CjwKCAiAjMHwBRAVEiwAzdLWGH8kOACS0nxlfbAGwsppnM7DhpuEgGFNuVC6l925A8bNE6RJi8nIXRoCn0YQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds ](https://www.interdiscount.ch/de/computer-gaming/kabel/computer-kabel-adapter--c524000/secomp-roline-rj-45-kupplung-cat-6-gesch irmt–p0001404913?gclid=CjwKCAiAjMHwBRAVEiwAzdLWGH8kOACS0nxlfbAGwsppnM7DhpuEgGFNuVC6l925A8bNE6RJi8nIXRoCn0YQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds)

            be extended.

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              Yes, that’s true, but then the cable comes out behind the kitchen where you have to sharpen the plates, and he doesn’t want that. I have to clarify with him what he wants to do.

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              @Pipo1258

              In summary:

              If you want a permanently stable, high-performance, problem-free and error-free connection, install a Gigabit Ethernet connection. And if you can’t do it yourself or can’t find the existing pipes, have an electrician do it for you.

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              Hello @Pipo1258

              There is definitely an old telephone socket on the second floor. This usually goes to the house connection via the stairwell, where there are branch points.

              And you also have a telephone socket from your current location.

              I assume that the pipe behind it is big enough to pull in a nice, clean cable.

              You can also use this pipe and then you don’t have to sharpen anything.

              Greetings Lorenz

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              Hello,

              So I looked at the telephone socket is mounted on the floor because it is a room in the attic, and the cable runs horizontally in the floor, goes behind the kitchen and from there goes to the 1st floor with a junction box behind the kitchen combination, so no chance without spicing up the kitchen combination . I have now received a new Internet box2 and a WiFi box and so far it has been running stable on the ground floor. Greeting

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              @Pipo1258 wrote:

              Hello,

              So I looked at the telephone socket is mounted on the floor because it is a room in the attic, and the line runs horizontally in the floor, goes behind the kitchen and from there goes to the 1st floor with a junction box behind the kitchen combination, so no chance without a kitchen combination sharpen up. I have now received a new Internet box2 and a WiFi box and so far it has been running stable on the ground floor. Greeting

              As already mentioned, if there is only a ceiling or a wall between the Internet box and the TV-Box, it works with the WLAN-Box without any major problems.

              In an old house where lead pipes are still installed with angles, we set up the Internet box on the second floor and then placed a WLAN-Box on the ground floor and third floor for the TV boxes and that worked without any problems.

              There are situations where it is not so easy to lay LAN cables without high costs.

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              Installationen, Netzwerk, Internet, Computertechnik, OS Windows, Apple und Linux.

              Even where it is associated with high costs, I recommend, at least in EFH, to accept the high costs and in return receive a worry-free network for at least the next 20 or 30 years.

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              @hed wrote:

              Even where it is associated with high costs, I recommend, at least in single-family homes, to accept the high costs and in return receive a worry-free network for at least the next 20 or 30 years.

              As already noted in other threads…

              Honor your optimism…for 20 to 30 years 😉

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              #user63

              @Herby

              Home installation is 16 years old, business installation is 15 years old. Both Gigabit Ethernet and there is no reason why they should change anything in the next 10 years. Only the in-house backbone in the business has now been converted to 10 Gig; in Access, 1 Gig is still sufficient for a very long time.

              And even in 2020 there are still some companies that only have 100 Mbps access over 25-year-old cables.

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