Hmm then I’ll just ask the question why you can only get fiber optics with Vivo Casa, could it be because the fiber optic installation is currently so expensive? That means the costs are only partially recouped with Vivo Casa?
This is just pure guesswork, perhaps FFTH will be possible with other contracts in the future when this technology has established itself on the market.
@99th wrote:
Hmm then I’ll just ask the question why you can only get fiber optics with Vivo Casa, could it be because the fiber optic installation is currently so expensive?
I rather believe that there are still too few potential customers in glass to offer a differentiated portfolio. Or then the systems behind it don’t work so well and you’re happy to at least be able to offer a product - wouldn’t be the first time that not everything works with new technologies from Bweginn 😉
I suspect that Swisscom is trying to maintain its sales and sell the packages to customers as added value. The fact that 25 francs are taken into account for a landline connection is antiquated. There are many, much cheaper alternatives via VoIP that can be tailored to your calling behavior or then a cell phone is sufficient. I expect Swisscom to be able to choose whether I want the signal over copper or glass and they will tell me how much it costs. I would then like to be able to decide about the remaining services myself. Such Vivo Casa packages must be able to offer me added value and not serve as a basic offer.
13 days later
So, for me:
- Swisscom pulled some fiber into my basement for x*1000 francs (together with EWB). That was a major construction site.
- Swisscom only wants to make the installation of the last few meters free if I switch from my Casa Trio to Casa Vivo **** (+12 CHF/month).
- The additional benefit of Casa Vivo for me is ZERO (I don’t have an HD television, I’m not interested in 20MB/s instead of around 15 before, I’m not interested in TV Air)
- The competition (via EWB fiber) seems to offer more for less money (especially in the IPTV area)
\==> if something optical comes into my store in the near future, it certainly won’t be from Swisscom and Swisscom will lose a long-standing customer despite a large investment.
Which super manager came up with this great strategy?!?
Patrick
“But if you are satisfied with your current performance there is no reason to switch to fiber.”
Sure, you’re absolutely right!
But if one day I want more, I will - thanks to the non-Swisscom fiber - start on a greenfield site and have the (new) opportunity to look around. And I will most likely not go to swisscom again if others offer more for less money. If all of swisscom’s fiber optic equipment were in-house, the field would no longer be so green and the inhibition threshold would be much higher.
For me it doesn’t really matter, but I don’t understand swisscom’s policy of investing so much and then taking the risk of losing a lot of customers through extremely stingy policies.
As a taxpayer and therefore a co-shareholder of swisscom, I would also find it a shame if it followed a similar path to Cablecom.
Greeting
Patrick
@Daniel-San wrote:
Yes, the argument is only too weak when it comes to the price difference. I have two colleagues who I should explain why SC but I’m slowly running out of arguments to explain the price difference.
How about:
- Because the money stays in Switzerland?
- Because the difference isn’t really relevant? 10.- per month are two/three coffees or beers)
- Because this will also secure jobs in Switzerland? (e.g. line construction, hotline not via D, computer centers, etc.)
- Because you pay the money anyway, if not via Swisscom, then via increased taxes 🙂
- Because Swisscom only uses “green” electricity
A month ago I calculated the price difference between CC and SC. I discovered that the flat rate statement that SC is more expensive than CC is not true. Rather, it depends on the respective situation. In some cases the CC is cheaper in other cases it is SC. However, the difference is usually around 10 per month.
When it comes to CC, people often forget to include the costs for the Anschluss (25.05/month), which is why many people end up with price differences that are too high.
@Pafff wrote:
- Swisscom only wants to make the installation of the last few meters free if I switch from my Casa Trio to Casa Vivo **** (+12 CHF/month).
Patrick
Development and operation are free of charge
The connection of the apartments and business units
is free for the homeowner.
The only condition is that the homeowner
pipe systems provided
used for pulling in fiber optic cables
can be. Both the installation and
the operation of the fiber optic infrastructure is for
Owners and tenants without any costs, whereby
there are a few exceptions (vandalism,
Tenant damage, animal damage, etc.).
I can understand why they don’t want to wire up your apartment (from the glass socket to the router and from the router to the STB/PC) for free 🙂 They would like something in return.
greetings elchoer
As the initiator of this series, which is proving to be pleasingly rich, I would like to speak out once again.
According to the above statements, the SC will automatically and voluntarily remove the “rise section” in the house because the cable tubes are there. It’s possible, I still lack faith. Now my basement connection is definitely on the wall. I’ll let you know what happens next when it really goes on. I’m excited about it myself!!
9 days later
…latest information from Swisscom in my mailbox:
Conversion to FTTH means:
- approx. 12 CHF more per month (change from Casa Trio to Casa Vivo ****)
- 149 CHF for a new optical WiFi access point (only Ethernet would be free)
And that without any noticeable additional benefit if you don’t watch HD TV.
The motivation to switch is growing every day…
a month later
Another month has passed, and the gray new fiberglass box, certainly not cheap overall, sits in the basement and remains silent. The EWB sent a letter “At the speed of light into the living room” as if every electromagnetic wave doesn’t travel at almost the speed of light anyway (due to the cable properties). (I know that for populist reasons, the amount of data and the speed of spread are mixed together). The letter is accompanied by offers from MYGATE and QUICKLINE. They are sensational and cheaper than the others.
But when I compare everything, my SWISSCOM 2-wire input (old cable pulled in sometime by the PTT or an electrician after 1895 with old 4-pin plugs) and powered by Trio Casa still seems to be the most efficient and cheapest variant.
Nothing speaks against optical fiber, but hats off to today’s highly developed digital transmission technology on copper wires!! When I was still studying at ETH, 300-3600Hz could be transmitted via wire!!! Just language.
19 days later
@scharly wrote:
Almost another month has passed. Nothing happens. The gray boxes remain silent. No tempting offers. What’s all the effort for???
If I were you, I would be patient and call the hotline to call the fiber optic department. Before my Anschluss worked, it took around 30 phone calls lasting around 6 hours (without waiting times). When the box was in the house and the salesman from Swisscom paid me a visit and told me “you will have the signal in 3 weeks”, another 5 ½ months passed.
So be patient:smileywink:
Tschamic
Hello,
I would be happy if the fiber optics in our house were at least in the basement. Fortunately, when the streets were rebuilt in the middle of Zurich, empty pipes were laid so that fiber optics can come when EWZ, Swisscom, authorities, etc. have agreed on who can lay the fiber optic cable in the street! This way the road won’t be torn up again in a few years.
My son has had fiber optics for years. When he moved to a different part of the city last October, he had the fiber optic connection back within 3 days. Provider: Orange, Location: Bratislava SK. Zurich and Switzerland are still a third world country when it comes to fiber optics for private individuals!
Greeting
Gian