Thanks for the many answers. We’ll see what Swisscom comes up with. Until now, I was of the opinion that the much-vaunted fiber optic would now basically be introduced into every apartment, and then the customer could choose what he wanted. That would actually be progress. Today I’m sitting on a two-wire line that was installed sometime after 1895 (that’s how old the house is). I still have the well-known 4-pole Anschluss!!. But it works with 20 MBit and I have HD and 2 boxes.
But, I think, if the pigeon is already sitting in the basement, why should I be content with the sparrow on the floor?
A solution for me would be to keep Trio Casa as before (without any additional costs) but thanks to the fiber optic technology, for example, I could watch two channels simultaneously and record at least one at the same time.
I saw something like that with the competitors EWBern.
The competition will probably take care of it.
I still use the old Casa Trio and don’t have fiber optic yet. Unfortunately, I have no idea when that will come.
But I’ve also been using 3 boxes since December because we moved a room and still had a previous TV. Sure, you can only watch two boxes at the same time, but at least it’s possible to operate a third device…
Additional Swisscom TV boxes cost 10.-/m
[http://www.swisscom.ch/res/tv/angebot/plus/index.htm#tv-box](http://www.swisscom.ch/res/tv/angebot/plus/index.htm# tv box)
Except for the Vivo Casa 5 star, where the 2nd box is included. The 3rd one also costs.
#user63
@Daniel-San wrote:
I’ve been wondering that too. I received glass but just because I don’t want Vivo Casa but have DSL and Natel Pro I can’t get the glass connection activated 😞
What does glass do for you with DSL and Natel? You can only have 20,000 anyway…
@Daniel-San wrote:
So that I can use two HD channels in parallel on ScTV. I also took the additional HD package for this.
Ah, all clear…
Well, you probably have no choice at the moment but to take a Vivo package…
In addition to Vivo Casa there is also [DSL and NATEL® Pro.](hhttp://www.swisscom.ch /res/kombi-angebote/dsl-natel-pro/index.htm)
Quote:
Possibility of DSL and NATEL® Pro with Swisscom TV. combine
The small print says:
Notes:
The offer is only available in the combination of DSL and NATEL® Pro subscription. The DSL and NATEL® Pro subscription is an individual combination of a NATEL® subscription and DSL. It applies to all NATEL® subscriptions with a monthly subscription fee starting from CHF 29.–. The minimum contract period for the DSL contract supplement is 12 months. Please note that your landline will be muted. Telephone calls via landline connections (including emergency calls) are no longer possible. For technical reasons you cannot use a static IP address. DSL and NATEL® Pro can also be combined with Swisscom TV.
So with this offer I save the basic landline fees and can put together my own offer.
Hmm then I’ll just ask the question why you can only get fiber optics with Vivo Casa, could it be because the fiber optic installation is currently so expensive? That means the costs are only partially recouped with Vivo Casa?
This is just pure guesswork, perhaps FFTH will be possible with other contracts in the future when this technology has established itself on the market.
@99th wrote:
Hmm then I’ll just ask the question why you can only get fiber optics with Vivo Casa, could it be because the fiber optic installation is currently so expensive?
I rather believe that there are still too few potential customers in glass to offer a differentiated portfolio. Or then the systems behind it don’t work so well and you’re happy to at least be able to offer a product - wouldn’t be the first time that not everything works with new technologies from Bweginn 😉
I suspect that Swisscom is trying to maintain its sales and sell the packages to customers as added value. The fact that 25 francs are taken into account for a landline connection is antiquated. There are many, much cheaper alternatives via VoIP that can be tailored to your calling behavior or then a cell phone is sufficient. I expect Swisscom to be able to choose whether I want the signal over copper or glass and they will tell me how much it costs. I would then like to be able to decide about the remaining services myself. Such Vivo Casa packages must be able to offer me added value and not serve as a basic offer.
So, for me:
- Swisscom pulled some fiber into my basement for x*1000 francs (together with EWB). That was a major construction site.
- Swisscom only wants to make the installation of the last few meters free if I switch from my Casa Trio to Casa Vivo **** (+12 CHF/month).
- The additional benefit of Casa Vivo for me is ZERO (I don’t have an HD television, I’m not interested in 20MB/s instead of around 15 before, I’m not interested in TV Air)
- The competition (via EWB fiber) seems to offer more for less money (especially in the IPTV area)
\==> if something optical comes into my store in the near future, it certainly won’t be from Swisscom and Swisscom will lose a long-standing customer despite a large investment.
Which super manager came up with this great strategy?!?
Patrick
“But if you are satisfied with your current performance there is no reason to switch to fiber.”
Sure, you’re absolutely right!
But if one day I want more, I will - thanks to the non-Swisscom fiber - start on a greenfield site and have the (new) opportunity to look around. And I will most likely not go to swisscom again if others offer more for less money. If all of swisscom’s fiber optic equipment were in-house, the field would no longer be so green and the inhibition threshold would be much higher.
For me it doesn’t really matter, but I don’t understand swisscom’s policy of investing so much and then taking the risk of losing a lot of customers through extremely stingy policies.
As a taxpayer and therefore a co-shareholder of swisscom, I would also find it a shame if it followed a similar path to Cablecom.
Greeting
Patrick