Prioritisation QOS

fly4beer · 2025-03-01T11:04:59+00:00

Prioritisation QOS

Hi

Unfortunately I don’t see all devices under the “Prioritisation QOS” configuration page of my IB3 and of course the device I want to prioritise is not among them. I have already rebooted. I’m just missing more ideas. Does anyone have any?

WalterB · 2025-03-01T11:10:01+00:00

What kind of device is it, e.g. with Switch you have to switch it off and on for 5 seconds for it to be displayed.

5018 · 2025-03-01T12:05:43+00:00

[unknown] Why would you want to prioritise a switch?

Isn’t the list just WLAN devices? I’m not sure.

Lori-77 · 2025-03-01T12:19:48+00:00

Hello together

It does not matter whether WLan or Lan

It only needs an IP address of this device, be it a server or something else.

Greetings Lorenz

fly4beer · 2025-03-06T11:08:21+00:00

Is a laptop via WLAN, I see both WLAN and wired devices in the list, but not this laptop.

WalterB · 2025-03-06T11:17:24+00:00

fly4beer

Is it possible that unknown WLAN devices are still present?

fly4beer · 2025-03-06T11:23:06+00:00

WalterB

I don’t see anything with “unknown” or anything like that. This laptop also appears in the device list, static ip configuration and network overview, but not in the Prio page.

WalterB · 2025-03-06T11:55:01+00:00

fly4beer

But the notebook is not connected via the guest WLAN ?

fly4beer · 2025-03-06T17:09:46+00:00

WalterB

Unfortunately not that either, no. Guest WLAN is even off.

fly4beer · 2025-03-13T17:33:28+00:00

WalterB

I have now connected the laptop via cable and it shows up. Still not via WLAN.

bitracer · 2025-03-13T17:42:46+00:00

fly4beer How much bandwidth do you have? Does it even make sense to bother with prioritisation?

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Lori-77 · 2025-03-13T17:44:11+00:00

fly4beer

Hi what happens if you connect this device directly to the router?

If you have a cascaded network, the router cannot see behind the other routers.

Greetings Lorenz

fly4beer · 2025-03-13T18:22:31+00:00

Lori-77

Yes, that’s what I meant, via cable to the IB3 I see it on the Prio Config page. Not via WLAN, although otherwise all WLAN devices appear. There was never any talk of other routers😉. But thanks anyway.

fly4beer · 2025-03-13T18:25:20+00:00

bitracer

I assume it would be useful for the time when the kids update their steam games or download new ones and fill the pipe. That way I could work normally and my videocalls would probably suffer much less.

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Werner · 2025-03-13T18:38:05+00:00

fly4beer

QOS is only useful for slow lines (rather less than 100 Mbit/sec), for fast lines it is usually even counterproductive.

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bitracer · 2025-03-13T18:38:47+00:00

fly4beer If you have 1Gbit line it’s unlikely you’ll notice anything.

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fly4beer · 2025-03-13T21:38:17+00:00

Now you’re all digressing a little 😉

If the line is full due to other traffic (my use case) then QOS helps a specific device not to be crushed. Even if the line is not fully utilised, properly implemented QOS should improve the latency of time-critical traffic (VOIP, video etc). QOS counterproductive? Yes for the kids or if the IB3 would greatly increase the latency due to QOS because the CPU is too weak, too little memory or something, otherwise I don’t see how this could happen in my use case.

I was also able to test how it is via cable. Download from a pc that fills the line, prioritise my laptop and everything is wonderful. But it would also be nice to be able to enjoy this via WLAN, then I wouldn’t be tied to the desk in my office and could change places from time to time without having to pull a cable.

Werner · 2025-03-13T22:00:43+00:00

fly4beer

The questions about your individual bandwidth are quite relevant, because on the vast majority of consumer routers, such as the Swisscom Internetbox, switching on QoS functions not only leads to an additional overhead consumption of bandwidth, but also to additional limits for the individual client at approx. 250 - 300 Mbit/sec.

Hence the questions again:

- what is the total bandwidth of your own connection?
- what does a concrete comparative test on your PC with and without QoS switched on show?

bitracer · 2025-03-13T22:14:07+00:00

fly4beer I know that it sounds great but implementing an effective QoS strategy is tricky. Unless you’re facing a concrete issue, don’t bother.

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fly4beer · 2025-03-13T22:28:45+00:00

Werner

Again, the question is not what it does or does not do, but why the one device is not visible in the config screen when connected via WLAN.

We are also talking about a QOS rule and not 1000 per proto and devices or something like that, which the IB3 can’t do at all. I know QOS, even on 100Gbps left…

Zoom, for example, suffers extremely when my line is full. Video and sound. With QOS I don’t notice any difference whether something else is running or not. I would also like that via WLAN.

I have a downlink of 140Mbps and an uplink of 40Mbps because it’s only copper, far away from the distribution box and Swisscom can’t offer anything better at the moment. Yes, I’m actually paying for 1Gbps.

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