Integrate UniFi 6 In-Wall into the WLAN

  • Hello everyone

    I find the UniFi 6 In-Wall to be a visually beautiful solution and would like to integrate it into the existing WiFi network of my Swisscom router. I still have an empty pipe available on the upper floor, I could pull the appropriate LAN cable directly from the router, PoE would also be possible.

    But has someone integrated a UniFi into the Swisscom WLAN, is that possible?

    I have UniFi network cameras in the house, I don’t have any more knowledge 😉

    Can anyone help?
    Greetings

    Marco

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    • So you can simply give the Unifi the same SSID and password as the IB-WLAN

      Since roaming is primarily the client’s decision, it’s usually quite problem-free

      However, the WLAN statistics from the Unifi controller and the IB are lost when the devices switch back and forth

      Even practical features such as binding a client to an access point will no longer work (this has been possible in Unifi and the Swisscom WLAN-Box and IB system for several firmware versions)

      At my house, “tinkering” with things like this is no problem at all, but for customers I only use one system. As soon as Unifi is used, I switch off the IB’s WLAN and attach an access point to it if necessary

    Hello @Marco_CH

    You can configure the Unifi AP via APP, simply enter the same WiFi data there as you have on the router.

    But automatically passing on the AP to the router will almost certainly not work because they are not from the same manufacturer.

    But you can also use a Wi-Fi Box 3 from Swisscom, which would give you 2 network connections for TV, etc.

    Greetings Lorenz

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    So you can simply give the Unifi the same SSID and password as the IB-WLAN

    Since roaming is primarily the client’s decision, it’s usually quite problem-free

    However, the WLAN statistics from the Unifi controller and the IB are lost when the devices switch back and forth

    Even practical features such as binding a client to an access point will no longer work (this has been possible in Unifi and the Swisscom WLAN-Box and IB system for several firmware versions)

    At my house, “tinkering” with things like this is no problem at all, but for customers I only use one system. As soon as Unifi is used, I switch off the IB’s WLAN and attach an access point to it if necessary

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    I’m trying with the same SSID, so far it’s working fine. I think it’s a nice visual solution and doesn’t require an additional power supply.

    Thanks for the help 👍🏼

    Best regards

    Marco

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      @Marco_CH wrote:

      I still have WiFi Box 1 but you need power again and without Lan it’s just a repeater.


      Without LAN only repeater but also applies to other APs, not just to the WLAN boxes…

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      ….keep on rockin' 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼


      Marco_CH wrote:

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      I’ll try with the same SSID, so far it’s working fine. I think it’s a nice visual solution and doesn’t require an additional power supply.

      Thanks for the help 👍🏼

      Best regards

      Marco


      So for an openly visible solution, I like this.

      And usually the individual clients do the WLAN access point roaming much better than any central control from any manufacturer, which ultimately doesn’t work satisfactorily anyway.

      I would be really surprised if your current solution led to any problems.

      I occasionally mix an Asus WLAN with Swisscom WLAN boxes for testing purposes and so far this has never produced any negative effect (at least for me).

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      Hobby-Nerd ohne wirtschaftliche Abhängigkeiten zur Swisscom

      @“x”#234740Agree with you, ed doesn’t play that much of a role in private life

      The only reason why I don’t do it like that anymore and have a Unifi AP in addition to my router (WLAN disabled) is because I like to have correct statistics from Unifi 🙂

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      8 months later

      I tried the solution from @NilsL a few days ago as follows: With Internet-Box 2, Ubiquiti U6+, as well as on the client side with and without WLAN-Box 2 but always with TV-Box Model IP 1800. I switched off the IB2’s WLAN, to avoid mutual interference. I connected the Ubiquiti to the IB2 via cable and PoE adapter.

      This solution was interesting for me because in my apartment with reinforced concrete walls there are simply no good and at the same time visually acceptable locations for the WLAN-Box where the TV receives a good Wi-Fi signal. (The neighboring houses’ WiFi comes in through the windows and is sometimes stronger than your own!) To do this, I have to hang an access point in the corridor, but you can neither hang up the WLAN-Box nor does it support PoE.

      The WLAN created in this way worked very well for the mobile. The basic function was also given for the TV-Box. Unfortunately, there was a very massive issue regarding QoS, i.e. the television practically received no usable signal, even though the WLAN was now strong at the client. Either additional configurations would be needed or this solution no longer works after Swisscom has installed the new Android operating system in the TV-Box. - In the end I gave up.

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      Hello @Secheiweing62

      Unifi and Swisscom TV is a separate story. You still have to activate multicast on Unifi.

      It runs via the switches.

      Don’t you still have room in a tube on the TV for a 3mm cable?
      Because you could use a fiber optic cable.

      Whether you have a copper converter on both sides or an SFP switch is up to you.

      Greetings Lorenz

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      @Lori-77 wrote:

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      Because you could use a fiber optic cable.

      Whether you have a converter to copper on both sides


      What exactly would those components be? Like POF stuff?

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      ….keep on rockin' 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

      Hello @POGO 1104

      No no no POF

      Converter

      I put a fiber optic cable in the craft room…

      Either a [complete Set](https://www.brack.ch/swisscom-lwl-leitungskabel-fibre-clik-lc-extension-kit-30-m-790067?utm_sour ce=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%21cc-pssh%21l-d%21e-g%21t-pla%21k1-it%21z-it_multimedia_channab le&utm_term=&adgroup_id=161560923788&ad_type=pla&prod_id=790067&campaign_id=9422718872&gad_source=1&gb raid=0AAAAADvnlqWgN0CPbJRPQiOjdDqsNoXqu&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhcHjwL36iQMVvJaDBx2G8REBEAQYASABEgI1p_D_BwE) or hold the fiber from a roll where you weld a pigtail on both sides, LV connector and this then goes to a switch with a fiber optic module.

      Speed ​​is then given to the module and switch.

      Greetings Lorenz

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      Hello @Secheiweing62

      Your problem has nothing to do with the new Android version on the TV-Box.

      The WiFi connection of a TV-Box is a challenge even with pure Swisscom equipment. It’s working well now; Thanks to the closed Swisscom system, it’s so good that you don’t have to worry about it anymore.

      It’s only when you want to integrate third-party systems that you usually “fail” because you realize that a clean, reliable WiFi connection to an IPTV streaming client is anything but plug’n’play. Swisscom saves you a lot of configuration work because a lot of things have already been optimized for this purpose.

      I also use Unifi myself. But it still doesn’t occur to me to connect the TV box via WiFi. Even with LAN it is a not entirely trivial matter to operate the TV-Box smoothly in the Unifi network. And then Unifi keeps tinkering with the software, so that configuration settings made a year ago no longer work without any problems, and improvements have to be made so that it runs smoothly again.

      My recommendation: connect the TV-Box to the LAN and you won’t have any connection problems.

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      @Lori-77 Thanks for your feedback. Somehow the AP missed Ubiquiti’s own router and I couldn’t find much setting options in the app. At best it is due to a lack of know-how.
      Cabling will probably be the right solution in the long term, but it won’t be that easy. Possibly an approach: I have boxes with no longer used coax for radio/TV in all rooms. You could definitely use fiber optic or Ethernet cables in there.

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      @“x”#111Thanks for the good feedback.
      Yes, it’s true. Operating the TV-Box via a 3rd party access point was previously my last plan.
      Plan A: The cabling. But that either looks terrible on my premises or it becomes quite complicated.
      Plan B: Find better locations for the IB and the WLAN-Box (for TV, radio, etc.). After extensive measurements with the WiFi Analyzer app, I was able to achieve an improvement of around 6dBm, with device positions with a tolerance of < 5 cm. But the WiFi signal on the TV is still at best -70 dBm and a warning appears every now and then on the Swisscom website. And yes, the WiFi signal actually comes from the next room. (Just hanging the WLAN-Box in the corridor would help.) The WiFi in the neighboring buildings is sometimes just as strong.
      Every time I have a problem with the TV box, for example, I am always asked about the WiFi, even though the actual cause of the problem was always somewhere else, e.g. a defective TV box.
      Plan C: Upgrade from IB2 to IB3. This is supposed to improve the WiFi. I tried. The signal strength arriving at the TV is unchanged. But I had massive pairing problems between IB3 and WLAN-Box 2, whereby I could choose between 3 copies of the latter and the pairing was still successful for the first time with a box, even from a distance of 1 m, only after hours of trying. - So cancel.
      Plan 😧 Powerline. The other room is on a different phase and I would need a phase coupler. I also think it is doubtful whether the TV box will also want to.
      Plan E: 3rd Part Access Point.
      So at the moment I’m going with plan B and knowing that the signal strength is actually too low.

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      @Secheiweing62 Are you currently trying to connect the TV-Box directly to the WLAN of the Internet box or a WLAN-Box?

      Have you already tried to build a “WLAN bridge” to the Internet box with the WLAN-Box?

      [https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/hilfe/internet/wlan-box-einrichten.html#acc-i91oUA%5Bselected%5D%5B%5D=1&acc-\_JQvgA%5Bselected%5D%5B% 5D=0 ](https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/hilfe/internet/wlan-box-einrichten.html#acc-i91oUA%5Bselected%5D%5B%5D=1&acc-_JQvgA%5Bselected%5D%5B% 5D=0)

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      @kaetho I tried both TV-Box directly via WLAN and the TV box with cable to WLAN-Box 2. These subvariants behaved the same in all cases tested. With the WLAN-Box I am a little more flexible in terms of location. But in the acceptable installation locations, the incoming signal is nowhere better than where the WLAN-Box and TV-Box already are. The WLAN-Box only makes sense because I need additional ports, so in addition to the TV, I also connect the radio and a smart player.

      So I’m sticking with plan B for now, basically it works, despite the weak WiFi.
      I have to take a break because I’m going to the hospital for a few days. Then I’ll think about cabling if necessary, so plan A. But first I have to see how I can implement this cleanly and cost-effectively. - Thank you for your suggestions!

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